tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1418182253490918132.post2364960814090487212..comments2019-07-22T01:44:27.745-07:00Comments on The Space Show's Way Outside The Box Ideas And Plans Blog: Dr. James Vedda, Friday, 10-8-10Drspacehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01890688001747840352noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1418182253490918132.post-21896935161918754342010-10-15T11:54:17.835-07:002010-10-15T11:54:17.835-07:00Gary,
I'm not going to speculate on the appro...Gary,<br /><br />I'm not going to speculate on the appropriate payload capacity of an HLV -- I'm a policy guy, not an engineer or mission planner. The important thing is to establish the purpose first, and then build the tools to achieve it. You wouldn't buy a fleet of trucks before deciding what business your company will pursue. HLVs, like space stations, orbiting fuel depots, and other hardware, are tools, not the end result. Carrying large payloads is likely to be necessary for any big space development project, but where do they need to go (LEO, GEO, lunar orbit, lunar surface, etc.)? How often? What is their shape and volume? Do large payloads need to be brought back to Earth? Of the many questions that need to be answered, the only one that seems to be getting plenty of attention is "How many jobs will it bring to my district?"<br />There's a role for the government to play in HLV development, because it won't be a profit-maker as soon as it goes operational. But the hard questions need to be answered first. So far, we haven't done that with sufficient detail or creativity. Simply saying something like "we'll need HLV to go to Mars" is not enough.<br /><br />JimJim Veddanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1418182253490918132.post-56663034665083816812010-10-12T07:51:12.797-07:002010-10-12T07:51:12.797-07:00Dr Livingston, I appreciate when you have guests ...Dr Livingston, I appreciate when you have guests on like Dr James Vedda, John Garvey, and the people from Futron who express more pragmatic, balanced views. I find shows like these much more informative and enjoyable. I agreed with Dr. Vedda that NASA's human spaceflight mission needs to be revised from an exploration perspective to a space development focus. <br /><br /> <br /><br />However, I have a question for Dr. Vedda concerning super heavy lift launchers (SHLV). Whenever I pass a new road construction, new bridge construction, or tunnel digs, I inevitably see large construction vehicles of many types. Some so large that they would take up 2 or 3 lanes of traffic. While such vehicles could be used to transport goods and people, these vehicles are best utilized in infrastructure development. Such vehicles would be wholly unsuitable for commercial transportation. This is the way that I view super heavy lift launchers. SHLVs main function is to aid space infrastructure development. SHLV are not suited for simply commercial transportation. Though some people disagree with me, my impression from listening and reading various reports, including a recent Space Show with Dan Adamo and Dallas Bienhoff, is that the majority of space industry/flight experts believe that some type SHLV is necessary to space development/travel. That those critics who support using existing EELVs for space development outside of commercial transport are in a minority. I would like to know what is Dr. Vedda's view on SHLV and does he have an idea of the payload capacity that is necessary? If you could forward this on I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.<br /><br /> <br /><br />Gary MilesGary Milesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1418182253490918132.post-79007759439345282202010-10-11T14:48:05.557-07:002010-10-11T14:48:05.557-07:00Really NASA doesn't do space science, they lau...Really NASA doesn't do space science, they launch spectacular craft that gather huge amounts of data - or not - but they don't really do much with the data. They do the space science missions as a excuse to build the ships (or rather contract JPL and others to do them for NASA [NO JPL isn't part of NASA]), but not for science.<br /><br />Really focusing on developing industrial space capabilities is a good idea - but then you need to decide capabilities to do what? Then what do you implement to do that? You could argue for RLV cats systems as a backbone tech for any fture tourist or industrial use of space - but since neiather now exist - how do you design something for them?<br /><br />Then of course you need to deal with what get political support for NzAA programs (spectacle value and pork in districts. I.E. does anyone care for space infrastructure? Does it excite them and get cool headlines? It failed with shuttle and shuttle was then driven to become less efficient (not more) to employ more in important districts. <br /><br />Then he started talking about international cooperative projects, which causes the costs to skyrocket and the progress to flatline, as the programs mire in international bureaucracy and contradictory aims.Kelly Starkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07859020384869273575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1418182253490918132.post-66399748123732724642010-10-09T16:49:30.750-07:002010-10-09T16:49:30.750-07:00G'day,
I understand the advantage of having ...G'day,<br /><br />I understand the advantage of having NASA concentrate on industrial space capabilities but wouldn't this conflict with their space science missions? How about splitting NASA into two organisations an Aerospace Development Agency and an Space Science Agency? I think that's what the Japanese have done.<br /><br />ta<br /><br />RalphRalph Buttigieghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03610832618405595436noreply@blogger.com